Thanks for the notice! What do you think? Im an applicant for YLS this summer and I had a few questions I was wondering you could help me out with your experience? My friend told me about NSLC, national student leadership conference, you should check it out. Im sorry to hear you had a bad experience. There are a few peculiar things about it, so I am curious if anyone here knows if it's legit or not. I think its great that youre reviewing this programs, so thank you for writing this review. ]]]>, enrichment experiences, National Youth Leadership Forum, summer programs, summer programs for high school students, I am a sophomore in High School and considering the National Youth Leadership Forum. You can get a very similar experience just calling up a residency program in your local town and having your son/daughter shadow. Thanks! It depends on each student and his or her own experience. Thanks, Again, that does not mean Envision Experience, Envision, EMI, or the National Youth Leadership Forum are a "scam." I think it would be more accurate to describe what Envision Experience offers as very expensive, possibly under-delivering camp experiences for people who really want their kids to succeed but may not realize that there is no . It says its partners with College Board, Wells Fargo, Jack Kent Cookie Foundation, American Indian College Fund, etc. [Update: We discuss the National Youth Leadership Forum programs and other options on the January 26, 2015 episode of The College Prep Podcast. Your email address will not be published. This is the first time Ive heard of the call within 48 hours part. If needed, the Free Application for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA) can contribute to a certain familys EF C, as long as said family reapplies every year. @Seventeencarat Hey! Not to mention more than 40 other activities and interests. Hes only 9 years old and in the fourth grade. Ive worked in public schools and never saw any incentive to promote this program. A program similar to NYLF is the National Student Leadership Conference (NSLC). Explore program offerings. Agency:<br> Girls Scouts of Greater Los Angeles<br><br>Girl Scouts of Greater Los Angeles (GSGLA), a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, serves 32,000 girls in partnership with nearly 16,000 adult members and volunteers throughout the communities of Los Angeles County, and parts of Kern and San Bernardino counties.<br><br>GSGLA is the largest girl-serving nonprofit agency in Los Angeles, with programs in . If you were my child, I think wed look for some other programs before making a decision. When looking at loans, there are two types: subsidized and unsubsidized. Suddenly being included now that I have talked to the staff feels like an insult and this program looks like one that caters exclusively to those with extra money to burn. I guess you dont want to spend your summer with a bunch of 17 year olds. I still might go, just to figure out if medicine is a field I really want to go into. Both workshops were mainly presented by Curtis Ferguson II, Associate Director from USC Admissions. Im a sophomore in high school. My wife and I are interested in the day camp program (feeling hes too young to stay on campus), but reading some the Q&A above, Im quite unsure if this type of program is geared towards children his age. Why dont you look for some weekend workshops closer to home? I feel likejust save the $2000 and put it into a college savings account for her. I, too, find the $2000 cost high, especially for a 4th grader. All of these programs are equally credible. The materials said it would be held at the University of Berkeley campusit wasnt. Required fields are marked *. She of course is undecided where yet, she loves space and chemistry. This is a nice program, but it isnt going to set you apart more than any other summer program / camp. Im a freshmen hoping to go in to medicine and got sent a letter all about it do you think as a freshmen it is beneficial for me or should I wait a year or 2? Hey my daughter just got nominated, she is in the 11th grade and looks forward to attending. Im in 6th grade and I just started middle school. Do you know any other programs? Your advice about researching cheaper options is spot on. I met many new friends who I plan on keeping contact with for many years to come. Its about helping your child decide if this is what they want to do & to just have the experience & memory. I dont want my mom to fork out so much money to take me to a program I might not even like. I am assuming at least half of my grade got one but just want to be sure. Nicole, This would be my daughters first time away for that long and not being with family. The wall on the left of the massive gym boasted painted blue and white and sports displays, the majority of them being because of basketball. Id love to hear about your childs experience with the program. I have yet to hear any positive feedback on the STEM program. You would think that if it was a legit program for helping students they would offer scholarships to at least some students nominated for this. Being nominated by a teacher is a legitimate and significant honor for a student. Thank you. Heres what helped influence our decision. I got a letter from NYLF for Law and CSI and I didnt know if it would be worth going or not, and I just wanted an opinion on whether or not I should go. I want families to know they have options. Is National Youth Leadership Forum legit? She will be disappointed but I think she will understand. I am in ninth grade and got an A+ in my business class. as a useful website for easy access and guidance to scholarships. Best of luck to your and your stepdaughter as you worth through these options. Julia, Id encourage you to google summer engineering programs for high school students. You can specify California or San Francisco and see what you find. I have taught high school for over 10 years and during that time have nominated several students, some have attended the event. Hi Shannon, Before you make a decision, spend some time researching other programs. It doesnt seem worth the high cost. Do a lot of research before making any decisions. Unfortunately, the programs are often limited to a week to 10 days and cost more than many other camps. Envision was sued in 2009 (and settled in 2010) for deceptive marketing practices, among other things (see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Envision_EMI). Megan, I recently went to the prpgram in San Francisco. What do you get out of it? I attended the forum on National Security and I must say it was a great experience. Try to find the program that offers the best balance of activities for your child. She mentioned the sponsors of this event, which included Wells Fargo bank, the American Indian College Fund, the College Board and APIA Scholars to name a few. Im just a bit confused about why i was nominated for that. Or because its been taken down? This is the best one yet! Some programs also get mailing lists from the SAT, PSAT, ACT, PLAN, etc. might be a pretty thing to put on your resume, and sure the people are nice, but I dont like paying $2000 USD to get a good 5-day cook out, as it essentially was to me xD, yesterday I get a card of NYLF but I dont know if I want to go because I am in 8th grade and I have 12 years and I am kind of scared and also I dont know what Im going to do in those university, Valeria, Megan. A list of children attending, what an invasion of privacy. Im glad the program is legit, and Im glad its being held where we can drive in couple hours and drop her off. I got nominated to go to nylf and my mom thought that it would be an amazing experience for me to go. Ill be bound to make up the rest. Last Summer I had decided on engineering and three months ago I decided on aerospace Engineering. Megan. Its a lot of money for a weeks experience, a bit over $2000, but in the end, we bit the bullet. I still talk to them. An article in the New York Times in 2009 provides some additional detail: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/19/education/edlife/leadership-t.html. I was wondering, I didnt see a post from you after he attended. Is there any worth of going? We began the YPS Leadership program to encourage the confidence and capacities of young leaders who can design and generate solutions to problems faced in post-conflict situations aligned with their values, while addressing root causes and systemic challenges. Probably not. Junior Gabriela Guevara from Franklin High School has not decided what she would like to major in yet, but is interested in psychology. Id love to hear your feedback now that your daughter has attended. I AM A VERY PROUD GRANDMA OF A 10 YEAR OLD GRANDAUGHTER THAT JUST ARRIVED IN DENVER TODAY FOR HER WEEK WITH THE PROGRAM The discussion begins around 22:20 minutes. My situation is very similar. We also built a replica zipline. Ive had students who have really benefited from the experiences. Its a good program for what you want to do, but be prepared to be fed up with them when they try and bring you into other events. Jackie, Paul, I am not interested in gaining prestige, just experience and a fun week filled with learning. I was googling national youth leadership forums trying to figure out what I attended back when I was in high school and found this thread. They were horrible. Hi! What if hes not interested in the medical or CSI portions? Brenda, However, there are no admission criteria for NYLF. Bottom line, highly underwhelming. All activities were hands on: We built a robot, programed a helicopter and flew it with a computer, worked with 3-D modeling and 3-D printers. You identified the key question which program will have the greatest impact? You can tell your mother it is NOT a scam, but it isnt as prestigious and exclusive as they make it sound either. Even though I bought the travel insurance, it says they can keep your full tuition amount. This company does a tremendous job of keeping all this negative information in the dark corners of the internet! And your parents probably feel less honored than they may have 15 years ago. Thats quite a bit of money. Hi! Please feel free to email me personally. Many list top students and send them back to National Youth Leadership Forum. My son just returned from attending the NYLF Science and Technology session in San Francisco. NYLF programs are good, but they are not your only opportunity. Could you please email me at Nelliem81@aol.com. They do grant a limited # of partial scholarships. I also have a son who is a high school sophomore who is very interested in attending this forum. While it sounded like a pretty great opportunity, all of these replies to your article are making me nervous. Mark, document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); College Prep Results, LLC: A Megan Dorsey Company. Does the NYFL offer some sort of scholarship to attend there programs ? My parents dont mind, but I told them they shouldnt waste it (because of the situation we are in). Fergusons advice about grades and AP classes in this context is to do the best that you can do in the environment that you are in. Additionally, colleges want to see that an applicant is involved in their school, involved in their community and taking leadership roles. I just got my acceptance to the YLS. I have a feeling that our school is in a position to attempt to get as much money as they can get their hands on. Another thing to consider with college application is to find the right school for you; the way to determine this is through extensive research and finding out a colleges majors, financial aid, location, graduation rate, campus life, public vs. private school and religious vs. non-religious school environments. @PinkScholar12. The first is that anyone can nominate anyone to attend and there are no selection criteria for getting in, other than a parent writing a check. As I said in the article, these programs are NOT scams. I dont have any issue with students attending if you like the content of the program, want to attend, and your parents can afford it. Hi, Marcus, After a quick break, Ferguson introduced a new guest Natalia Zampini, a personal banker at Wells Fargo to take all the juniors in the room through the financial aid process of college. It seems legit tbh because its soonsored by a lot of credible organizations- one being Uchicago. I think if you are looking to expand your leadership skills, you would be better off doing something at your school or in your community. We were told 24 hours to notify them, Iam so glad I saw all these comments, I think I d rather gas up my car and spend the $$$ on visiting museums & historical sights over the summer instead. In order to calculate an accurate estimate to how much money a certain student needs for college, there is a basic equation, which is COA (Cost of Attendance) EFC (Expected Family Contribution)= Financial Need (the number you need to pay for college). They are looking for those who are willing and able to spend thousands of dollars on a week long summer experience. We live in a dying community where the gap between the haves and the have-nots is HUGE. You are the best judge of what is appropriate for your daughter. My wife and I are unsure if we should try to come up with the money to send him. However, these programs are indeed expensive. I went to this last summer and it was nice for engineering. I have been very interested in pursuing a career in medicine for the last couple years. He is 8yrs old. We went to Stanford. On the positive side, Ive had students attend these programs and leave feeling more motivated about their future plans. Cookie Notice I know every student is different, but 11 is still young. Maybe a good start for most people would be to get in contact with families on this list and ask them personally about their experience. Contact Information 1919 Gallows Rd Ste 700 Vienna, VA 22182-4007 Get Directions Visit Website Email this Business (703) 214-0973 Want a quote from this business? After reading the comments here I was correct about them that they seem to care more about money. My parents can afford it, but should I do it? My neighbors kid did this to add it as an EC. If they need recommendations and so forth, there is no way I can do it. Id encourage you to find other camps for your son ones you can comfortably afford. Anyone who is currently a high school student can register for and attend an NYLF program. I dont really care about looking good on college resumes because I try to do a bunch of stuff outside of school for that. I showed it to my father: he personally knew two of the three keynote speakers listed. Most of the students in my orbit praise the National Young Leaders Conference Program (NYLC) and its affiliated programs as being very interesting and well-run. Thanks. Megan. I had the opporutunity to meet many great leaders as well as interact with my peers. What is the best way to locate these programs, through the universities directly. Get a Quote 1/5 Average of 24. In retrospect, I think I gained maybe 10%-20% benefit from this experience. Some people regarded it as a scam but others claimed that it was a genuine program. It seems to be a scam to me. I was so excited for the robotics bit! Would be nice to here from someone whos child actually attended. See if any of the colleges or universities in your area are offering summer programs for kids. My mom is talking about putting it all on credit, or maybe taking out a loan, both her and I really want me to go, but I need to know if it really is worth 3,100 dollars. Its a bought-and-paid for program that doesnt give you a big gain on the admissions thing. I just dont want families to feel like it is the only option. I have been nominated for both the National Youth Leadership Forum and The National Student Leadership Conference. My 3rd grader got this in the mail today. He is really wanting to go but I want to make sure this is truly worth the money. Yes, it is not as special as they make it seem. The program is fun and impactful, but students especially love the people they meettrainers, GEAR UP staff, and other students. Hi! Im in 4th grade and I just got a letter from the NYLF . Your tuition includes all curriculum and instruction, program activities, site visits, and events, overnight housing, program materials, at least two meals a day, a Certificate of Completion, and local transportation during the program. How do you feel NYLF Stem program compares with Duke Tip? Not offered now. Hi Megan! Megan. Hello for online purposes my name is Jeff, Im a junior at my high school and for months Ive been searching and researching different ways to prepare myself for college. However, I feel as if the marketing materials overstate the prestige. My son is 12 and when he was 9 he could have enjoyed working with other kids 9-13, but I wouldnt have put him with a program of high school students. This company feeds off of parents and students desire to feel special. I have a son who is 11 and I would NOT send his to one of these programs at his age. HomeNCCEP StaffCareer & College ClubsCapacity-Building WorkshopStudy LabYouth LeadershipInstitutes About GEAR UPTake ActionNews, NCCEP1331 H ST NWSuite #900Washington, DC 20005, National Council for Community and Education Partnerships (NCCEP), STEP 3: Submit Payment for Conference Registration on Behalf of Students, National Council for Community and Education Partnerships. ACSI strives to lead, support, and serve Christian schools, and educators, by placing them on a path of growth and flourishing using the research-based Flourishing . I ONLY WISH THERE WAS A PROGRAM LIKE THIS THEN THAT WOULD HAVE MADE THEIR COLLEGE ACCEPTANCE EAISIER. What are the differences and which would be more beneficial? My 5th grader received his invitation today. But since it is too expensive, it is not. This is not a scam, but this program is no more recognized than other organized summer-camp program. But with my parents its mostly about the cost. That is awesome of you and congrats! BUT, there are many other programs out there with similar activities and different costs. The biggest obstacle [of going to college] would be being a minority. Thats what Im going to try do. AND MAKE SURE YOU NETWORK!! Also, was wondering I got nominated and does everyone get one or is it an honor to be nominated? Megan, Hi, She told me no you will do it. Mark. You can find other excellent opportunities that cost less. As the parent of two kids (12 & 17), I would NOT recommend sending your third grader on this experience. They didnt realize there are hundreds of other programs, many less expensive, that they could have considered. If we had to fly our son in from, say, California, I dont think we would have chosen to do this for financial reasons. Just like other summer college experiences, the programs open students up to a slice of college life and engage them in coursework in their field of interest. The last 3 days will be you most enjoyable days, because of the trips and the party. We just received the same packet and on one of the forms I says flight not included. HSF's College Camp is a free, bilingual, half-day, college preparation program hosted on a college campus, designed to help students (6th - 12th grade), and their parents, prepare, plan, and pay for a college education. My son is now a sophomore, we can drive to DC and has an interest in National Security/Military. that seemed a little strange like if you were invited then there would be space for you already reserved?? Is this worth attending? As a single parent who has an 11 year old who was nominated, I am going to do everything in my will to get him there. The YLS provides a high-quality, national-level interactive training experience and peer-to-peer learning opportunity focused on life, leadership and learning-to-learn skills for 9th-12th grade high school students who are currently participating . 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