Posters have pointed out that Bridge Guy appears to be trying to hide behind a tall, skinny tree that is camera right to the photo of Abby crossing the bridge. Hopefully, it's him to give the family closure and he don't kill other girls. Not only for justice, but because that means that the sick sob who murdered those girls is off the streets. They looked like sweet girls and it pisses me off that now the people there cant even enjoy those trails. Have they interviewed Pastor Davey? go ahead, tease me, blow me out. It has been four years. (The son is currently in prison for watching and downloading children being sexually abused -- sorry I can't use the word "porn" with regard to children). I worked with a barrister once who had had to view CP images. That tattoo looks so much like her because all of his victims do. One woman said a young guy was staying at her house and an older guy who looks like Bridge Guy picked up the younger man from her house on the day the girls went missing. View popular celebrities life details, birth signs and real ages. I have read that he planned to take them somewhere but they broke and ran at some point and he was furious and then killed them quickly but not the way he fantasized (taking them somewhere and keeping them alive for a while first). Convened a new task force that had its own bldg and then this. Are they waiting for a confession? Take with a grain of salt but he said that the younger girl, Abby, was killed quickly but the older girl, Libby, had fought and had much more trauma. tragic. And what if the BG was wearing some kind of disguise? We know how the girls died. Ok, maybe this screenshot shows why I see a younger guy loaded with stuff. , money, salary, income, and assets. Garnett testified that Delphi had come to his home after learning her parents were angry with her for leaving her brothers and going to a party. Defields Lawrence was called to the stand to identify some clothes that had been found at the scene as belonging to his daughter. Been lurking here for a while but am curious to ask this question. Mere minutes saved her, poor child. It involves the girls talking with him and even meeting him intentionally. Congratulations on this excellent venture what a great idea! I always felt that the case would be solved by him getting caught committing another kidnapping/murder. Myra Hindley and Ian Brady. Almost bowed legs. A coroner decided there were no suspicious circumstances surrounding the I haven't followed this case extremely closely but now I do wonder if the police know it's this guy. Was video collected throughout Delphi from Feb. 13, 2017 including video from the building across from the abandoned CPS building (The Andersons)? They're probably going to kill you anyway. That could be a big lead. He convinced her that he loved her and when she agreed to marry him he coldly dumped her and never spoke to her again. Nope. 2. James Chadwell should have been killed by the cops whrn they found the naked, sexually abused and beaten till almost dead, 9 year old girl locked in his basement. Leigh is both a male and female name, so no, hes not posing as a woman. R428 That does NOT look like a young guy. Anybody here know anything about that? This means he would likely be familiar with the Monon High Bridge: Dont remember specs well enough . not sure these girls were even old enough to menstruate. Garrett said the cause of death having a unique aspect that only the killer would know is the only logical reason he can think of for law enforcement withholding the Down the hill and two sketches from possible witnesses in the area the day the girls were murdered. This case got under my skin. Again, after studying serial killers for decades I believe he was unknown to the girls. Also as his thinner legs demonstrate, he's not as big as you might think. Some believe that neither girl was pregnant). But Garnett also told the jury more. Yeah, on Reddit you see a lot of initials with explanation. Some believe it's related to chadwell requesting a different venue due to Delphi publicity, but the cops are no longer going to discuss any suspect publicly. ENOUGH. Could LE find the ISP of the profile's creator? Chadwell is not the first person accused of an abduction crime who has been investigated as a person of interest in the Delphi murders. Nor have they released the cause of death, but certain horrific details have been leaked. He lived just 30minutes from where they were killed. Around that time I thought for sure it had to be because BG had used the same thing. Stay away from places like this. It really is a creepy coincidence, though. R168 ugh, I cant see whats at that Facebook page. He targeted only one of them, imo. Did this have something to do with the murders? Do you consider this a cold case? [1] So you're saying you're one of those people who thinks he dug up photos of Libby one or two years BEFORE the murders and tattooed her on his arm before killing her and Abby? It may help to prevent action against false leads/confessions and may help to build the case as it would be very suspicious for an innocent person not connected to the crime to know those details. But if they don't have DNA then they'll never be able to prove it. have we confirmed this guy was into hunting and/or fishing? i feel like they need some help from some higher sources. Also I would never have pegged that guy for an cop. Investigators worked up a composite sketch of the man in the photo. Looking at one photo of him outside somewhere with train tracks/trees in the background startled me for some reason. All they have is a few words and a blurry image. Way back the theory was - one of the girls (A?) I wish I could remember who said it and where I heard it, but there was an interview with someone who had worked on the case and he mentioned how badly affected people he worked with had been by what they saw at the crime scene. These are things that I can see but we all get our own impressions. According to Leigh Kerr there was a religious aspect to the crime scene and the bodies were staged. It's the ears. This fat guy wouldn't surprise anyone. I've never believed the catfish theory. I always roll my eyes at the 'owed money to drug dealers' theory. By bits and pieces, they told me it was a relative that did the killing, Lawrence said in an interview earlier this month. The workplace of double murder suspect Richard M. Allen, on Oct. 31, 2022, in Delphi, where girls Abigail Williams and Liberty German were killed in 2017. Hope to hell I am wrong. He posed bodies in a horrifying way. R194 Ill admit, Ive never been so intrigued by true crime, but this one really got under my skin. To say I have follow this case is an understatement. Does he have a solid alibi? A. Horrifying. The guys and down the hill are in order, according to one of the parents/grandparents who listened to the recording and were interviewed on a podcast. Its been months, this guy clearly isnt the killer. If there is DNA, has it been run against a genealogy DNA database? "I don't want this person to do this again, and if he has, I hope that I'm able to help that family and be a part of their lives eventually," Kelsi said. So far, no additional information has been released and Indiana State Police have still not identified the vehicle or a possible person who may have been driving it. @R321-- I honestly didn't see another face tattoo because I was so horrified by that one. (this is only my opinion and many disagree). Sometimes the police are lucky in their investigations and the perp caught in a timely manner. It has been discussed with the FBI, but again, it is currently felt it is close to the evidentiary element. Press J to jump to the feed. The meth revenge could also explain why the girls werent sexually assaulted. READ | ISP call Liberty German a 'hero' for capturing audio, photos of suspect. I don't think he was less than 30. Then you've got to go an search for the story. She took a photo of the old guy with her cell phone because he was acting odd. I think the face on that tattoo is exactly what her poor face looked like when he left her there for LE. There is a new sketch of BG in which he looks much younger. Local news reports in 2018 discuss the frustrating lack of answers in the Delphi murders case. The only real clue of their location was a photo Libby had snapped of Abby walking along the bridge and posted to her social media. I went down the Reddit Rabbit hole last night and read that there, but idk if that is accurate. So many of the guys in that area and of that age range look like the police sketch. That said, the writing style to me reads as a man in either law enforcement or law. liver disease, it has been revealed. They then posed for pictures standing on the murdered children's graves. He doesnt have a beer gut, hulking arms, or short sausage legs. I knew nothing about the case until today, but when I heard the man say Guys, down the hill it seemed like he was signalling other people via some Bluetooth handsfree set. On the favorite mystery thread, a poster mentioned the Delphi Murders and I looked them up. If the sheriff is indeed innocent, this documentary didnt do him any favors. R143, I dont have HLN. [quote] This guy had a gun and a knife(s), [quote]Just based on what I think is true-. I agree with the other poster too who says looking at their photos they just look like such nice girls, it really breaks your heart. Discover Delphi Lawrence's Biography, Age, Height, Physical Stats, Dating/Affairs, Family and career updates. I dont think you could stop yourself from screaming if threatened with a gun. Yes, this one horrifies me. The enforcer would come in, commit the crime, cover it up with the second child's murder, and leave the area. The timing of the girls recording, their death and the finding of their bodies also meant the killer acted quickly which likely means he had a confidence in surroundings. READ | A look at the property where two missing teen girls were found dead. DNA found at the scene may or may not be connected to the murderer. Making it look like a random murder / sex / pedophile crime would make sense to muddy their motive. He did not elaborate on any details about the investigation into Chadwell. Im assuming the killer found out she had it and tried to destroy it and it was found in the water? It could explain why Liberty was left undressed (to shame her and the family) and the other girl wasnt (collateral damage). Barely over 5ft tall? I truly don't believe Libby was meeting him (or the "model") bc it sounded like she had to get her grandma's permission, her sister to drive, and her dad to pick them up. February 13, 2017. At the time, it was uncertain exactly what the totality of the circumstances were. i was wondering about this as well. Lawrence, speaking to the Daily Local News recently about the case involving his sister and Garnett, said that Delphi had become literally a ghost, for him remembered, but only as a spectral presence. As the sun went down and the temperature dropped, the search continued through midnight when it was officially suspended, although some family and friends did continue to search into the overnight hours. Im watching now and r138 is right. As more Delphi murders updates come in, all it takes is one phone call, according to State Police Superintendent Doug Carter. It is frustrating to me that the real JTR was never revealed because it would be so interesting to know about his childhood and what makes a person so very sick. Good observation! Here was an app that allowed me to do that without having to go visit locations, he told the Indy Star. I question the credibility because the "graphics editor" is wearing Lee press-on nails while pointing to something in those grainy pictures. Or would a VPN work to hide it? She was an actress, known for The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Just seeing how close he was at this point in video and how the girls knew he was trouble, the thoughts going through their head at that time really fucking awful. It looks terrifying even without the psycho killer lurking. Another theory involves a second photo from the Delphi killings, taken at about 2 p.m. on that fateful day, which shows a man hiding behind a tree. Am looking for the photos and came across this. He then contacted her and dated her. I believe he is guilty of the two girls murders. I'm not yet convinced, he does fit the sketch, he is a real creep but that still doesn't prove he did it. He knew what he was going to say before he said it.. Apparently an agent was home visiting family there when it happened and brought the FBI in. In terms of the disturbing footage I've heard, it's always hearsay in this case, that the disturbing footage consists of what the killer does to the bodies. The fat pedo is wearing an Auto Workers Union t-shirt. I just started investigating this case. They do say it..a couple of them summarize it. They are also asking years later about whether anyone saw a car in a nearby parking lot. Listen above to the History Uncovered podcast, episode 24: The Delphi Murders, also available on. I think he must have had a gun, I have a hard time seeing how he could have killed them otherwise. Can we link to Reddit on here? And the tattoo predates the murders, but it makes me think he'd stalked Libby. I watched a few things on 2 Youtube channels: Other things in the stuff that I just read: Abby was murdered first. I would never have believed then that it would still be going on 4 years later. On sub-Reddit DelphiIsTheDays Timeline there is a post asserting fellow student Cheyenne said on FB she heard screaming and called 911. Who knows if that is true. People believe it [though] because its on the internet.. He is currently serving a life sentence without parole. In the video he looks to me like he's walking with a limp. [quote][R349] Not according to Chadwell's brother in the local news clip. I didnt see him again that night. (1961). I think LE has bungled it from the start. Police should have been releasing more info in this case. Law enforcement's relative radio silence over the probe has permitted a swell of speculation to mount online - something Holeman acknowledged. causes.". This is one that haunts me. If I were to tell you the person I was sitting next to on the bus on the way here, I would probably tell you their nose was small and their eyes were blue. Please listen to it very, very carefully.". "We are confident you have told someone what you have done. I'm not sure how I feel. We still have the up and down days is the best way to put it, he said. The bodies were discovered after a man's attention was drawn to the sight of 2 deer. His son, currently in custody, seems to be the alibi. And some of the ones who still haven't been caught: r291 - the current POI looks very good for it. They could have been used to spy on the girls. Knife kit, imo. The special on HLN was very disappointing. And another year slips by.. His clothes make him appear to be in his 40s. The Story Of The Unsolved Delphi Murders And The Chilling Video Evidence Left Behind. William DeLong is a freelance wordsmith. Delphi Lawrence (Delphi Cajetana Holzman) was born on 23 March, 1932 in Hampstead, London, England, UK, is an Actress. A lot of the stuff you're listing is speculation and rumor, not fact. death of the 50-year-old former Broadway actress. I don't think enforcers usually kill children. Chadwell's more in shape. "Speaking on behalf of state police, we dont ever release information about ongoing investigations, Holeman said. He deserves life in prison for what he did to the 9 yr old girl, regardless of guilt for the Delphi murders. I think he said it was Libby's body that had a stake driven vertically through her abdomen. In that tread it said that the girls had spotted him earlier and he creeped them out. but since i have heard about this, there is a lower leg wound that won't go away. R286 How did they say that? Abby responds, "Hmmm." I think he is the one who told the Delphi investigators to take a second look at KAK in connection to the Delphi Murders. The victim was found a few 100 yards from the lot. That should be the answer And right after the crime happened, i remember reading that le was checking stores in the area, to see if they sold a certain type of knife. The boyfriend and his brother were known for importing drugs through their small town, very well connected to the drug suppliers, the girlfriend found out and was killed. Kline said he had about 100 pictures from underage girls that were sexual in nature, in addition to about 20 sexually explicit videos. They stayed for most of the testimony, but left when medical examiner Halbert Fillinger testified about the case of death. They may have dropped something in that area, so we combed the area, said Sgt. Another key piece of the puzzle that investigators have released is that they believe the man who murdered Libby and Abby was either from Delphi or was familiar with Delphi either because he works there or has other connections. R207 Thats my thought. That's it. One potential key piece of evidence in the case was released by police within days of the killings, showing two grainy photos of a hat-wearing suspect walking on the abandoned railroad bridge the girls had visited. Because of social media, and the onslaught of armchair detectives, pictures and information of people who may look like the man in the photo circulated, causing death threats and harassment. Either way, this fucker is going down for assault, kidnapping, attempted murder and molestation of a child. No. I think an officer would have a holster, even a hidden one. "The sketch isnt a photograph. "That young lady is a hero, that is no doubt, Indiana State Police Sgt. They're desperate to move this case forward but the truth is they've got nothing. Garnett, he said, was the son of Lawrences uncle, but was living with his mother, Betty Garnett, and a stepfather, Sam Whitaker Jr., on South Adams Street in the borough. Crossing the bridge was not permitted and signs were posted. The first sketch was misleading. so many reddit threads i didn't read all the way through. The crimes are very similiar. I grew up in the Midwest and Indiana is an awful, backward place. possible exit route of the killer(s)? Absolutely not. Those are the vibes some of his pictures gave me. A young male student who was in the room asserted he said something to try to save the girls. He just needs to know when the trail exists, when it is empty, and that two women entered alone. After the two attorneys gave their closings, the jury deliberated for three hours before returning with the guilty verdict. license plate, year, make, model, color). Delphi Lawrence (23 March 1932 11 April 2002) was an English actress. Initially trained as a concert pianist. Several feet behind her, a blurry figure can be seen behind a tree off to the side of the trail. What a fucking monster. This is one of the most frustrating unsolved crimes to me. The police department took the liberty of connecting the spoken speech in the recording. It'd seem more sensible to me if it was an unusual cause of death, i.e. Some say that the recording contains much more footage of the killer but the parts with him in it are to graphic and disturbing to show and don't want to upset the families, and others say that what is out there is all they have off the killer but don't want the killer to know that's how little footage they have of him. Try a different tactic or call it a cold case. Lawrence, who is now 51 and lives in Wyndmoor, Montgomery County, said he had made approaches to see Garnett and talk about the case. So very tragic. The pouch/fanny pack that the Bridge Guy was wearing may have been a deer kill kit that contained a knife and other things. Crying into her potato salad over the stolen election. R252 no, there is more audio but law enforcement doesnt think releasing it will help. Provided Photo One of the cellphone pictures from the Delphi murders depicts the suspect walking down the railroad bridge toward Abby Williams and Libby German. She got up and pushed at him, and he grabbed her by the throat. The links won't post here. Or something like that. Investigators have released two grainy images from that video that shows a man were to believe was behind the girls on that bridge, a short clip of that man walking, an audio recording of a man presumably the same one saying Guys. Oh wait, thats one of those girls grandfather at R64. The second piece of evidence is a short audio clip which was also found on Libbys phone. This is not the situation with the Abby & Libby investigation. "Bobby, what are you doing!" And if so, why are they withholding the name? I agree with the OP too, it's horrible that what should be a great place with a great pasttime for kids should be ruined like that. R340, they do not doubt it's him, it's me- i just think it's too soon to say it's definitely him. Where there no cameras around that area at the time? Q. For instance, the Harvard professor who keeps insisting aliens visited earth could be feeling guilty that he covered up for the alien-murderers and providing us with subtle hints that they are actually guilty. Alonzo Brooks was murdered in a small town, too (Unsolved Mysteries, Volume 1).
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